mentioned, it's standard, lots of people say this about the president. now, she didn't say that -- she didn't lie about him. she didn't say he wasn't born in this country. >> that's a good point. i should also note while we're having this conversation that nbc did not sever ties with donald trump when he was running around the country of being born in kenya and manufacturing a birth certificate. one should note that that was not a fieshl offense in this context. part of it to me has to do with these terms white supremacist in the wake of charlottesville and nazi. i see people using that a lot. i'm not trying to play devil's advocate here, but genuine about how you place the boundaries of the label. it's like well, they're not -- they have bad views, there has to be -- i guess what i want to say is there has to be a space for people that have bad views who aren't nazis, race views or politics that aren't good that aren't white supremacists.
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