military, people like leon panetta, who was defense secretary, are really concerned right now. this is not a joke. it's not a game. >> right. >> real people can -- you know, in 1994 when we almost went to war with north korea, president clinton had the casualty figures put together, what would actually happen. 59,000 american dead. 490,000 korean dead in 90 days. >> yeah. we don't even have an ambassador to south korea to sort of sit him down. >> it wouldn't be nuclear. this is conventional war. this is the real deal. >> let me read you what senator ben sasse had to say. he said, no, congress obviously isn't going to war in venezuela. nicolas maduro is a horrible human being, but congress doesn't vote to spill nebraskans' blood based on what the exclusive lashes out at today. i recently saw the movie lbj,