was such a supporter and so loyal, sends a chilling message to anybody supportive of donald trump that he could turn on you at any second. it is interesting to see what happens next week. will trump continue the attacks on jeff sessions. there are rumors that he is looking at making sessions the replace of kelly for homeland security. >> okay. and secretary of homeland security. that is interesting. really quickly, to stay with you, kurt, what he fired them, what would they do. >> if he fired jeff sessions there would be open warfare because everybody would see this is clearly designed to make the russia investigation go away, as richard just pointed out and that is really what this is all about at the end of the day. and i don't think that members of congress will look too kindly on what will clearly be obstruction of justice. >> and it would be -- on that -- we're talking about the politics in terms of members of congress, katon, but you do politics and campaigns for a living. one of the ways that you could win an election is to demoralize and divide the other side.