you see it with jared kushner who had to submit three security clearance forms because he lied on first two. you see it with michael flynn, you see it with the lying by jeff sessions to congress. and this is something that is so dangerous to the republic. i'm glad we have a special counsel mueller right now. i believe he'll do the right thing. when you see indictments coming, then you're going to see that our democracy is once again on right track. >> and, you know, herb, i want to ask you this question. i meant to as the guest yesterday but i got to distracted by the funny hat pictures that i neglected to x i'll ask you. if in the 2020 election the government of iran were to decide that it would like to please weigh in and help out one of the presidential campaigns, would you have the same attitude toward that kind of intervention? it's really not a big enough deal for us to spend a lot of time on? >> look, i think intervention is a crime or it could be a crime. i mean the point about all of this is that there isn't sufficient evidence to draw any conclusions. all i'm saying to you is i think
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