this is something you need to do for people who need this help. but those can be worked out. you don't have to make the system government-controlled so people have no right -- >> you do have to. there's no universal health care in the world that doesn't mandate universal coverage. that's how you get the risk pool. you don't have to have high risk pools when everybody is insured. >> universal health care is not the goal. the goal is good health for people of the united states. i brought you on to apologize for saying obamacare is in a death spiral. but this way we get to speak again because you still haven't apologized. nice to see you, buddy. former chief of staff to paul ryan. i think he really does believe what i'm saying but just won't admit it on tv. coming up next, the fight over president trump's voter integrity commission is heating up as states around the country are pushing back in a way. roland martin joins us and he's fired up about the issue. i think he's hash tag bringing the funk.
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