i have a great deal of respect for the congresswoman but i think she's wrong. there is no fire. i mean you can say there's smoke, but these are a series of perjury traps that are being set up by democrats to try and go after trump administration officials because there's no underlying crime. there's no evidence that there's collusion between the russians and the trump campaign. not one piece of evidence has been produced. it is a fishing -- i do agree with president trump, there is a fishing expedition. this is a witch hunt in the sense that they're looking for evidence and they haven't found it yet. now if it does exist, more power to them, but i just don't think it's there. what we're seeing are the pursuit of all these trump administration officials going after them for paperwork violations and allegations that they committed perjury because they've said one thing and their paperwork indicates something different. >> brian, you would certainly -- because of the intelligence community and their assertions about russia meddling in the american election, don't you think that it's a problem to
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