direction. and we've had a little bit -- >> setbacks with turkey over the past decade. >> that's a big setback, yeah. >> yeah. >> when people used to ask me, what would a democratic middle east look like, i would say it's going to look like turkey. they had made a lot of progress. i don't think the story is yet done in turkey. when you look at that referendum that erdogan carried out it wasn't an overwhelming victory for him. >> may not have been a victory at all. >> it probably wasn't. one reason he was seeking votes in netherlands and other places was he wasn't quite sure. turkey's not quite done. >> same thing, seems general nicholson will get 3,000 troops in afghanistan, in the same vain in iraq, the way we lunge into these countries. could you give a grade to pakistan as an ally? what would you give it? >> what's in the middle? >> c. >> yeah. >> why don't we do pass/fail?
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