kim jong-un is rolling out the same strategy that's always been used by dictators around the world and that's to kind of create enemies around them because that's the only way he can hold on to power and hold on to support of his people when they think they are under a threat. that's what he continues doing. i don't think we can take that lightly or cavalier or count on it. i think we have to regard them as a serious threat they potentially pose but i think we have to realize that this is a lot of saver rattling done i think as much for internal consumption in north korea then for any other reason. >> american presidents use that to create enemies to make them look emboldened and policy choices and strengthening american -- >> absolutely. >> -- consent in defending the national interest. after president trump and -- >> and to win elections, too. >> and to win elections. but after that meeting with the president of china and donald
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