>> in the future, what i think that means is that the future political solution of who controls syria means assad is not involved, you know. the reason we have a problem with refugees is because of assad. the reason that there was a civil war that created a space to allow a group like isis to come in is because of assad. assad has violated the chemical weapons convention on more than a dozen occasions. we've talked about the one from a week ago, but he's done this on many occasions. so, he cannot be involved in the future of the country and that means the russians need to pull back their air force and to support assad and syrian forces. >> which brings the question, ambassador, if assad goes, who takes over? >> that's the real question nobody addresses, and it's a very serious question. while i agree with the congressman completely, that assad's a brute, a war criminal,
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