the determinative effect. >> she used the term the womenization of information. what did she mean in. >> she meant with the russians had first stolen the campaign e-mails shelf described it as a theft bigger than watergate. and then they weaponized it by leaking it through wikileaks and doing it in a very careful, methodical way that some people say suggest some knowledge of the political system that russians might not have had. >> let me play one more portion. i want to include this. you asked her about mysogyny and empowering women. here's that exchange. >> this is a women's empowerment conference. i have to ask fundamentally, a man who bragged about sexual assault won the election and won 53% of the white women's vote.