i was particularly puzzled by congressman nunes going down to the white house to kind of brief the president, i suppose. the problem, of course, is it tends to undermine the credibility and independence of a hill hearing and i think that's really unfortunate. >> what could be the find of information? in looking at it, you've been inside at the cia, at the nsa, what is the universe of possibilities that this could be? >> well, i've given that a little thought. i don't have any magic answers. it could be explaining how, if this is true, how people close to president trump and the campaign, how they might have been picked up had they been communicating with foreign folks. >> and what would be so secret about that? >> well, as you know, under executive order 12111, minimumization, in other words taking out u.s. person identities is standard operating procedure and it obligatory. it can be broken in two
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