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incidentally swept up because they were talking to legitimate legal targets of foreign surveillance? oress likely, it seems, is that they were targets, themselves? they, the trump people, were targets, themselves. i think that's very, very unlikely. and so i think there's a lot of conflation of issues here underneath what monitoring and what surveillance actually means. >> okay. michael allen, former republican staff director on the house intelligence committee that devin nunes chairs. thank you for joining us. appreciate that. let's go over to capitol hill now, let's talk about the politics of this. kasie hunt, devin nunes right now i understand has now inspired chuck schumer, the top democrat in the senate, to call for him to step aside from the committee because of this? >> reporter: steve, that's right. you had senator chuck schumer, top democrat in the senate, going to the floor to say that he essentially believes that this is such a conflict of interest, paints such a bad

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