press corps. carl, what the health care -- heck happened? did it surprise you? >> no surprises. it's embarrassing for the republicans. they were going to get off to a big start to show they can finally govern and instead stepped on a banana peel. most republicans in congress have never had to pass a bill that they were going to be accountable for and i think some of them are honestly terrified. >> it seems that there is confusion here. trump is having a polital negotiation and mark meadows and the freedom caucus and others are trying to have a policy negotiation. is that fair to say? >> i don't think anybody who has been talking about these meetings has come away thinking president trump is a master of all the details involved in health care. he doesn't claim to be. i think there is a problem here because people have these
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