but i don't think he is listening. >> listening sessions are for show? >> look, i think exactly as you are saying. they are hoping the gary cohens and the steve mnuchins are driving this administration. you know, we have the budget out this morning, it lays it out. i'm not sure, as you are saying, how much traction the policies are getting. yes, the dow is racing. yes, people at the highest level of the incomes are getting a huge benefit as they are seeing in portfolios. the policy, you only have to look at the health care plan to see, who is going to reap the benefit from the repeal and replace from the ryan bill. itis not the lower income, it's people at the top, top tier. how long it's going to take americans who voted for him in the hardest hit communities are going to have a wake up ment and say i'm not getting a benefit from this, but the bankers on wall street are. >> you saw that in west virginia, the anger. >> that's a good point.

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