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public. the dnc members moved to vote for acclimation, so it is recorded as a unanimous vote for tom perez and they were all unified on that, and in the back of the room, the ellison supporters were saying get big money out of politic, and they were unhappy. and so with the first move as chairman he appointed keith ellison as deputy chairman and that should go a long way and unexpected. in the speech he said that he would reach out and try to heal these wound, and keith ellison making the same point, i need you come with me and we don't have the luxury of being defeated. but this is a clearly step left for the party, even though ellison did not win, perez was the most liberal member of obama's cabinet, and the party is embracing the new progressive roots, and see if the grass roots are going to come with the party. >> and the question is how they might work together those two. >> right. well, you know, the unexpected move to make keith ellison the deputy chair and we don't know what that means and maybe it is a symbolic move, but it is a

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