to his base, talking to supporters feeds him so that's not going to change. the bigger challenge for the democrats is not to get so swept up into being so anti-trump obviously that they're not putting out and communicating a message. there's 47 months to go before the next president is inaugurated but you still have to start formulating, communicating that countervision. and it's really easy with someone like a president trump with his positions, with his rhetoric to get really caught up in it. up still have to have a countervision to combat that. >> chris kofinis and joe watt conditio -- watkins, thank you. also on monday i'm co-anchoring with my pal craig melvin. >> that's right. i'm looking forward to it.
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