them revealed source in different place -- >> pj, let interrupt you. if you are harming the american national interest and are you disclosing information you know you should not, how is that sort of not may not treason in terms she wasn't charged with it how is that not a serious offense? >> it is serious offense. in 35-year sentence was a serious punishment. we have to distinguish between a civilian court of justice where you put people to maintain public safety and military court which is primary purpose is to reinforce good order is discipline we have here is a balance where the message coming out of the