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and so that's really the main complaint of people who don't like the office. but the reality is, this was done in the dead of night, in a closed-door meeting of house republicans. it's going to be voted on as part of a rules package today here in the house. but speaker ryan, kevin mccarthy, both say, their aides say that they spoke out against this in the meeting, but at the end of the day, right now, it's looking like thi office is essentially going to be gutted, eph. >> all right. mccarthy was just on "morning joe" and he said maybe the timing wasn't great, but he did support the sentiment. megan, help me, with all that congress could focus on, this, this is the first thing they go after? people who voted for donald trump, their issue is that we're just too focused on ethics, we've got to change these rules? >> it's not exactly draining the swamp. it's kind of pouring more muck into it. i think kasie makes the exact point. people are going to be outraged by two things, one that it was done in this closed-door,

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