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i think health care and medicare is where we may see the most. >> 2016 was the year of donald trump's victory. it was also the year of the shattering of the ideological consensus within the republican party. interview after interview, we're watching donald trump go against the mainstream of his party, conservative orthodoxy. i remember being on the plane with him in august of 2015. i said, are you a populist? how do you define yourself ideologically? he said, costa, i'm common sense. so each and every time he made news because he was breaking away from the gop, that is why a lot of people in to a party priva privately said that he's probably the first independent president of the united states because he o's not really a republican at his core. >> hugh, is he? >> i think he is. i think he will become one. i can binge watch those clips forever. i mean, i love watching donald trump use things like if it funds the abortion, the abortion like the nuclear. i was standing next to him, next to -- >> the articles.

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