pushing it in directions we don't want to go. >> similarities perhaps on the perspective of the china/u.s. relationship between the two former presidential candidates. this is a question i was sort of thinking of, because when you look what donald trump was annal able to do in u.s. politics. discussing it last hour. might he be able to do the same with international diplomacy? >> he's certainly going to mix things up. things will not be the same. i don't know if it's for the better or worse. the united states has a lot of cards to play with china, but the chinese have always had more political will. therefore, they've been able to get what they want. i'm not so sure trump for all of the blather is really at the point where he is stand toe to toe with the chinese. now, he has advisors actually quite good. nonetheless, a fascinating con test that will last for years. >> talk about diverse perspectives. wilbur ross, his nominee to be commerce secretary, is pro-china. and so when you put that
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