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we kind of laugh when george w. bush said he looked into the eyes of vladimir putin and saw his soul. now, if vladimir putin or if erdogan in turkey or somebody treats one of his businesses well, is that all it takes to convince trump -- >> right, to curry favor, right. >> that's where i'm worried that trump is very impressionable even with no bad intent his businesses make him susceptible to that sort of -- >> that's a great point, too because you don't even have to posit this dark profit motive, that he'll use the office to profit. all you have to say is if erdogan starts steering business or regulatory favors to turkish properties or the same thing happens in another place, right, does that essentially end up currying state favor with the most powerful person in the world when they're having relations with that country? >> no, and that's right. then you see it on a dozen other levels where the international stuff is the stuff that worries me. on the domestic stuff, i think this is where my conservative

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