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the kind of people we're supposed to be backing. >> now it's such a mess over there with nerve involved and the air space is very limited. you know, it's not that big an area. the air space is very limited. now we have -- what, are we going to start world war iii over syria? >> i think hillary clinton had a rather tricky policy of, she was going to protect the air space over -- protect certain areas of syria from bombing, no-fly-zone. if you have russian planes involved, we've spent since 1945 avoiding a war with russia. i'm for that. let's talk about the two selections. i want to know who you're for. give away your hand, jen. you're a hawk, fair enough. you want john bolton to be secretary of state? >> between those two, absolutely. >> why bolton? >> because number one, he's at least been in a position of national security authority. number two, he is a much more stable, personally stable and sane individual. number three -- >> does that look stable, what you're looking at right now? >> you know, listen, we're

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