federal governors. he can hit the ground running. i think it would be an absolute seamless transition. >> pence is a great guy. everybody likes him. he has taken stances that he disagreed with, but no one accuses him of anything underhanded or out of the ordinary. he is a boy scout. >> this decision that trump will have to make about a chief of staff, somebody running the white house day to day. some of the names out there, the contrast between steve ban on whose name has been floated in the press, the ultimate outsider to the washington world and another name being floated. the player and the contrast. if that is indeed the choice that trump is facing, the decision he makes will say a lot about the direction his administration is going to go.