republicans never win that. he won places -- well, the whole state of pennsylvania -- >> there wasn't single poll in wisconsin, there wasn't a single poll in wisconsin that ever had him ahead. >> there might have been one but no, the marquette poll was pretty off. there were some polls but they were all dismissed as outliers. if you looked at the overall trends, you could see the momentum was in trump's favor. some of the polls got it right. those few polls were seen as outliers. majority of the polls got it wrong. they've gotten it wrong now frankly for three cycles. >> should be noted hillary clinton is leading in the popular vote. that's been the case for democrats i think the last five elections. what does that tell you, if anything? >> well, i mean, look, it tells me that generally the country holds what we might think of as kind of a left position or progressive position. and however we might parse that. but i want to talk about this
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