up to him wanting selfies, wanting to wear these hats. people do see an obvious connection between david duke and donald trump. >> there is a feeling among these folks and again, like it's hard to get your head around what the numbers are when you talk about people that are explicitly avowedly identified as white nationalists, for instance, that this is kind of a moment for them. and whatever happened in this trump campaign, you know, in the way that a certain kind of conservative found the goldwater campaign was lost but they learned how to organize and sort of enter politics, that this kind of represents that for them. >> yeah, i think that they see right now a real opportunity with donald trump taking their language to the mainstream, to the mainstream political discourse. when you see donald trump talking on cable news every day on the way they talk, on their radio shows, on twitter or on their reddit forums, it's very validating for them. >> it's been hard to distinguish when you deal with these what i call nazi frogs on twitter and