ran out of good material and went to the trash talk and it just did not work. i don't think it got hum a single vote last night, anywhere watching. your thoughts? >> you were in the hall, chris, so you had that feeling. it certainly came through, i watched it on television, and you saw, number one, hillary clinton had better joke writers. she just simply -- he should have hired somebody to write some jokes. >> yes! >> aren't there any conservatives in hollywood? maybe there aren't any, i don't know. >> well, you played the bits that worked. hillary clinton did what you have to do, which is self-deprecation. donald trump did kind of a bleak self-deprecation, right? because the joke was really about melania, not about him. you kind of have to set it up that way, and then you can attack a little bit more. hillary clinton got that. >> this is the part of the thing that's much more important. both of you answer this. something big's going wrong. trump is not living in lalaland. he's looking at the polls that we produce and you put on every night and he knows what's going on. it's like a football game, at some point, they don't show the score, you know, nfl games, they
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