there are 19 of them that democrats have won, she starts at 242. now we're putting into play georgia, utah, arizona, texas, they're going on tv, the hillary clinton campaign is going on tv in texas. >> they are doing that. let me ask you this question. barack obama's campaign in 2012 thought about putting arizona in play. the campaign decided not to do that, because they didn't need it. that was their judgment. don't waste resources. we don't need this. the clinton campaign is not facing that same choice. do you think it's smart for them to spend resources on reach states rather than just devoting resources to the states they absolutely need to win? >> i think they'll have the research they need to get to 270. there are going to be expansion states where they're going to try to get votes. and it's not only getting votes for them, they're helping their down-ballot ticket mates as well in those states and that's going to help hillary clinton governor if she's going to pick up senate seats and house seats, but it's also forcing republicans to play defense there. the bottom line is donald trump
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