15 seconds someone's shot once the active shooter starts. i hope they're taking that into consideration right now and make that entry as soon as possible. >> does darkness factor in? >> no, this is going to be inside a building. so, not necessarily, no. >> and in other words, and i have to trust you here to say or not say something that you think might compromise anybody in any way. but, for instance, when darkness falls, will they just turn out the lights? >> well, in this case, you wouldn't want to do that. you're going to need it as much as he's going to need the light. in this case, i wouldn't turn it off. however, i'd cut all communication to that building and all cell phone communication in the entire area off so he can see and can't make phone calls in or out. i'm assuming they've done that long ago. >> you have been in these situations before yourself, right? >> yes, three of them, actually. >> we were told earlier that s.w.a.t. team members are just
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