>> i think this is probably as we've seen with islamic state, the communications have been very efficient. we've seen this for a period of time from when they held the hostages with emwazi. right across the border. and they've been very, very good at the way they've been able to get their message across. they've decentralized parts of the communication to get messages in various languages so that they spread across the globe. but this is part of a propaganda war. this is another thing that we have to try to tackle with, to try to tackle this extremism, trying to counter it. i think certainly states in europe and in the u.s. are also waking up and realizing that the impact this can have. in the uk recently, we convicted a 15-year-old boy. he's now the youngest terrorist
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