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he's been saying, donald trump, that is, about ben carson writing about the pathological temper, talking about it as a pathological disease and can't be cured. what type of night do you think ben carson has after facing scrutiny over the historical inaccuracies about anecdotes in some of the books? do you think trump goes after him? >> the format tonight is interesting. we have a side -- chuck knows this. almost a side competition. here you have fox financial. they're really competing with cnbc here in the debate we just had on cnbc. they'll try to show they can show a disciplined debate and focus entirely on substance. that's what you will see tonight. that's a side competition going on tonight. so the moderators are going the try to keep it away from that street fight. but the news, of course, would be if there was a street fight. i just want to -- this isn't exactly the answer to you. this is the way i look at this. trump's great strength of day one is nationalism. he appeals to the working class white guy especially out there feeling that the country is

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