the heck is happening over there with the management of this year's race? how unprecedented is what we're seeing? >> it's not so unprecedented. it's pretty normal especially when you have a covey of talented candidates like we do. they all have strong egos, strong desires. strong staffs. and plus, you know, they ran into a buzzsaw in the cnbc debate. so what's important is to realize what the responsibility of the rnc is. and the rnc is sort of the transzendent, the overarching entity that arranges for the debates tries to get some framework around them so that the candidates whoever shows up to be a candidate in the party, and they don't have any control over that, will have a fair opportunity in these debates to present themselves to the american people. that's mission number one of the