>> we're going to stay until the afghan government can stand on its own and not necessarily artificial numbers. >> any reason to think that's any time soon? >> no, it's probably not. we're probably going to be there for a while. >> joining me is elliott ackerman, a decorated marine corps veteran who served multiple tours. he's a writer based in the middle east and the writer of "green on blue." elliott, welcome. good to see you. you are the perfect person to talk to about this given your vast experience. when you look at the situation on the ground, the state of the afghan army and state of al qaeda and now isis, is this the right move? >> i think at this juncture it's the right move but we as a nation are in a space where we're having to redefine what have been our classical conceptions of war and peace. in 2015 the afghan war was still going on. five u.s. service members were killed in afghanistan this year. that's five too many, but it's a

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