an iowa democrat to be excited. it doesn't tell you much to add to the decision making tree. if people said give me joe that might have been pretty extraordinary. i wouldn't have counted on that happening. you can ask the republicans on the same side how many are excited about jeb bush? >> that clashes with what we are talking about tonight. i think about roosevelt, truman, kennedy, johnson, nixon. and then clinton and obama it is a high average of people. pretty impressive. people when they think of president do they think ben carson? really? really fiorina? do they think they are presidential material? and then look at the polls. they don't look picky to me. >> you said that they are not jumping up and down for joy about joe biden. i have been in iowa and on the campaign trail this time and i am seeing something completely different. i have been surprised how
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