>> yeah. he mentioned dorothy day during his address to congress and this morning he talked about st. katharine drexel. two of the most famous american catholic women there. what role do women play today in serving modern catholicism? >> women do everything, almost, with the exception of sacramental ministry which is consecrations, weddings, things like that, but pretty much everyone else. there are women parish administrators. there are obviously women involved in the liturgy not that you would guess that from the liturgy at madison square garden or indeed many of the other liturgies. there are women -- women have consistently, hispanic women, black women, been in charge of catechisms for children in the home, outside the home. frequently when this country has not been very friendly to catholics and other countries as well, women have been the ones who have protected the faith and passed on the faith. >> certainly that has been an evolution within the church. do you think it will ever
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