it sounds like a lot, yeah. >> though only two of the eight victims were homicides, the others were robbed and in some cases badly beaten. >> when he was telling us the story of his crimes, it was almost like listening to somebody describe playing a video game. he was that detached. >> one of them was -- lost her eyesight in one of her eyes and punctured a lung accidentally, but she survived. she was found in time before she bled out, basically. >> we wondered if his experience in iraq played a role in his behavior. >> no, that's the thing. i don't want to blame it -- that's what all these guys try to come home and say, oh, shame on -- you know, boo me, i got problems. i saw somebody die so i should [ bleep ] get off. i should have total immunity. i'm not saying that. >> he did not seem to have been bothered by the military experience at all. if anything, i feel like he got a little bit of a charge from it. >> to an extent it was fun. i guess every kid's dream is to blow stuff up and shoot people, i guess.