against military intervention in syria. there have been politically minded politically l activist popes in the past. there is a way to map them neatly on to american politics? >> well, you know, i think for instance, john paul and ronald reagan when they were very close had something in common. they were both shot and nearly killed in the spring of 1981. they both felt they were spared to do something important. and we've learned in decades since then how much they really worked together to try to bring down the soviet union and end the cold war. so, you know, just guessing, given what they did, this pope and president on cuba, i would be astounded in this meeting today when they met in private they did not talk about what other ventures they would not do in foreign policy, as well. >> it is remarkable, talking about presidents and popes. 30% of the u.s. congress is catholic. >> right. >> 6 of the 9 members of the
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