>> but richard nixon, whatever you say, that was a guy who would have been fine on the foreign policy questions. i mean, does that make you cringe? >> not really because i think it's about understanding the big picture in foreign policy. hillary clinton knew the name of every of these foreign leaders. we lost control to enemies across the middle east and she botched benghazi, so how much good did that doer? this is about larger policies. >> well, but -- you don't think t i's a threshold issue? >> i don't. this is why trump's voters are tired of the elite media being in bed with the political establishment. these kind of gotcha questions. >> you think hugh hewitt is part of the elite media? >> i think he had his 15 minutes and in a year you'll never hear his name again. >> what do you think? >> i refer back to the classic political science text on this, the reasoning voter by sam popkin who argues that voters are -- they exercise low information rationality. so ultimately they take short cuts to assess personalities of
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