i guess, where do we start? are we back into abortion rights as a campaign issue because of planned parenthood? i thought some of these issues would be put aside for a cycle. looks like we're back in there again. >> i think it's unfortunate the fact that i was talking to someone earlier. to get that kind of conversation going feeds right into the democratic party's war on women theme that they used effectively before. and this becomes a litmus test for the republicans. i think it will not serve them well if they try to defund -- shut down the government over defunding. it's legitimate to talk about putting tax dollars into a place we all find appalling. >> i wouldn't have thought this would be an issue.