emission reduction pathway at a time when we need to be seeing things like 80% emission reductions. >> can the economy handle the enormous cuts that you are talking about? >> well actually, if we were to take climate change seriously, if we had an action plan in line with the kind of rhetoric that we hear in the obama administration that rightly calls this the challenge of ore generation, kerry has talked about climate change as being akin to weapons of mass destruction. if we took that seriously it would create enormous numbers of jobs. it would be a huge stimulus for the economy. germany, which has rapidly transitioned towards renewables has created 400,000 jobs. so it would be tremendously good for workers if we did it right but obviously it is going to cut into the profits of the most powerful industry on earth which is oil and gas so they are fighting to block that type of