candidate, thomas you normally say this would be a disaster. you would end up tanking in the polls. i'm not necessarily sure they're normal political times and he's not a normal political candidate. normal laws might not apply here but we'll have polls in iowa and nationwide and be able to tell. >> meanwhile srks the ability to draw large crowds a problem for donald trump moving forward or is that draw still going to be there? >> that's something with this celebrity. someone who's a celebrity running for president and someone who has the bona fide credentials to be a commander in chief are two different things right now and we are so early in the process, it is just july of 2015. first nominating contests don't occur for six or seven months and people want to show up to an event, out of curiosity than to say this is the person i'm