easier for them to say yes than keep saying no. >> my kind of guy. my theme, too. we're back with the roundtable. ryan sabrina, and david. your thoughts your memories of your graduation speech, when you metriculated. >> i actually wrote down the name of clinton education secretary, richard reilly, from south carolina. i don't remember a single word that he said. >> was that his fault or yours? >> my fault. i think he takes some of it. >> sabrina, your experience? >> i'll preface this by saying that leading up to our commencement, because i'll say i'm grateful there was john mccain barack obama, julia louis-dreyfus. there was a lot of hyper around my commencement, because it was the 150th for the school. we end up with chicago mayor richard daley, at the time, chicago mayor, and it's because one of the northwestern board of trustees members was chairing the chicago olympics committee and a friend of the mayor's.