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>> the university doesn't have to meet the same standard as the legal system. >> i think that's the problem. if you have paid a full tuition, over four years and you get expelled, as this person did at duke, two weeks before graduation for the accusation of a crime that was never really proved, then, you know -- >> again you're talking about one anecdote i don't know anything about. >> more broadly, clearly, this is a problem across the board. not just at duke university. it seems like almost all of these cases, the one thing that has always present is alcohol. so is that ultimately the root of this problem and what can you do to solve that? you can't fraternities not to drink. >> i think that's exactly right. i think the root of this frankly is alcohol. excessive drinking binge drinking, you know the drinking age in this country is 21. by and large, everybody on college campus is younger than 21. i have two kids in college.

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