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gorgeous. huge source of tourist visits and such for the state. that is under your purview, right? >> well, exactly. and we manage that forest sustainably. the goal is to make it last as long as possible. and so that we can continue to raise money for our beneficiaries, which are the schoolchildren of wisconsin. and for these politicians, who don't know any better, or for personal vendetta. if he has a personal vendetta against tia nelson, and as you pointed out, he's tried to get her fired, because he holds a grudge, to use this scientific issue, which is probably one of the most important issues facing our planet in the next couple of decades, for political purposes, is just outrageous. >> how has the state, under the stewardship of the governor, scott walker, who i should know note is not part of the board of public lands, but how has scott walker's stewardship in wisconsin done in terms of

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