like you give the school an opportunity in that moment. so the idea that let's not talk about it is the way to not appear to be a great school as a college campus so it seems another way to respond to it is we have been challenged on this point. let's talk about it and that's how we'll indicate how open we are, how willing we are to engage in dialogue and discourse and how afraid we are to be challenged. >> when we think about institutions and organizations, i think we have to pay attention to being proactive than reactive. if you're being proactive about these issues when things like this come up you have a lot to say. you have a lot to talk about and say we're doing this we're doing this we're doing this. it didn't work out here because these are challenging issues. but we have the things in place, we've been working on these things that position us to be able to have these conversations going forward. >> that idea that maybe the race talk conversation starts not by asking how many friends you have but asking about the questions of power and influence i think is a critical one. tracy clayton, thank you so much for your piece. up next, uva. on it.