states. in other words, they would have to pull another bush v. gore. they would have to take their previous rationale and throw it out the window and say we hate obamacare and you're going to have to deal with it. based on oral arguments today, what are they going to do. nina is here, she was there. you're smiling. >> i have a connection with everything you just said. >> that was a slightly more partisan and ideological take on this. i am curious your sense today in that room, where the justices were on this case. >> well, you really couldn't tell in some ways, because we had four of the more liberal members of the court who clearly were saying, congress wrote a law that was quite deliberate in its purpose, and you