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not with this lady who clearly has problems and who has a history of problems, but why would a prosecutor put her in front of the grand jury? >> so, al, here's my theory. he was trying to either, a, overwhelm the grand jurors by jumping on them with all this conflicting information, so they'd just kind of throw up their hands and have no choice but not to indict. or he was trying to feed them any information that corroborated officer wilson's story, no matter how ludicrous the witness is. either way, it's not consistent with an investigation that's conducted in good faith and with integrity. >> so you gave me two choices here. either he was trying to overwhelm them to come with a no bill or either he was putting up witnesses to help darren wilson, the policeman. so either charge, you're saying, as a former prosecutor, that you feel he was trying not to get an indictment. >> al, i would have gotten an indictment if i would have been

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