>> we're trying to get a glimpse. i would imagine mr. gross is probably the gentleman with the lyinger colored shirt. it seems to be the person that is surrounded and the attention is focussed on that person as he slowly walks into the building. our view may be on secured after they walk after they walk in the building here. what it represents over all and at least eugene, your view from -- i'm interested from the younger cuba population to the older. which you noted on earlier. and what they see here as this plays out as well. and what it means >>well, i have heard arguments from both from dissidence inside cuba and from younger cuban immigrants that this embargo and the travel restrictions and the whole cuba policy -- it hasn't worked. and isn't working.