conversation later, i'm happy to have it. but until that time, sit down and shut up. >> there you go. >> well said. [ laughter ] >> he said i'm here when the cameras aren't on. it opens the question, what is he like when the cameras aren't on? get that mayor on the line, tell him he doesn't get any money -- >> it strains cred yulity to see he wouldn't be the same person. i'm saddened you didn't include my argument with him on same-sex marriage. >> replay it for us. >> i can't do that, there was a lot of back and forth. but the governor wants us to believe he's a micro manager, pedal to the metal, on top of it, from political allies and enemies. or he's incompetent in allowing staffers to go well beyond their authority. i'm having a hard time believing the incompetent piece.
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