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it's also true that many feel that this president hasn't made it clear that the democratic party is opening and welcome to immigration. is this an opportunity, even though this is not an immigration issue? is there an opportunity to more clearly define his role and that of the democratic party as different on the issue of immigration? >> my gosh. and it is, and it's probably too late. we're talking about a president and administration that deported already two million people. we're talking about an issue in the latino community in which the frustration level is up beyond here. so by all means, go down to the board enand start welcoming, put actions behind exactly what your words are. we are talking about a very, very conflictive image of this presidency on the issue of immigration. >> and it feels to me, and i might be wrong, but it feels like it president has been conflicted in part because he keeps thinking that a deal is possible. we heard him say, i don't have to run again, maybe if the bear is loose, we can get some clarity, vicky thank you for

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