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is still a global terrorist movement. >> and richard, there's all this concern about new efforts, new types of explosives that are being devised to use to try to attack us and those in western europe. do you think that is a serious concern? do you think that al qaeda is capable of that kind of development? >> well, it's not a new concern. it's been around for some time. and if you remember, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has already tried two or three times to put planes on bombs. you'll remember the christmas day bomber in 2009 and the printer bombs the following year and so on. and even another attempt they made in 2012. but fortunately, the person who took the bomb was working for the saudi intelligence services. so there is that fear out there. and i think recently because the assessment is that al qaeda may be making another attempt to launch an attack i guess that's come to the top of the agenda again. >> okay. richard barrett, thank you very much. a sobering conversation. appreciate it. >> sure. there is some new reaction to this videotaped arrest in southern california. it's coming from the daughter

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